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today it was reported that max baucus would not be seeking re-election to a seventh term as united states senator from montana. the reason this is bad for those people who are working for k street lobbying firm is because with this news they are suddenly far less valuable lobbyists. if you think this is just me casting aspersions this was studied and it showed that lobbyists with experience in the office of a u.s. senator suffer a 24% drop in generated revenue when that senator leaves office. baucus land is influence that stretches west from capitol hill where baucus has served for nearly four decades, the first four as a congressman, the past 34 years as senator, out into the vast hill side of lobbying and influence peddling that is washington, d.c. in fact, in such a -- it is such a legendary nation, baucus land the "new york times" saw fit to write an entire article about the universe of people who moved from senator baucus' office to k street. at least 2 aides since 2001 have lobbied on tax issues during the obama administration more than any other current member of purpose. th
too many. >> max baucus lead in the caucus, mark sanford try to get in. >> where do you stand on stimulus? her answer would be very different from the way that i have stood for a while on the whole notion of bringing our financial house in order. >> mark sanford, a candidate for a cardboard debated cutout. his opponent will only give him one debate next week. you do not get any back talk when you do that. >> he was inspired by clint eastwood's performance of the chair of the republican national convention. right now, mark sanford is less popular in this district where mitt romney got 56% of the vote, than barack obama. the most popular figure in that district is not a elizabeth busch or any other democrat or republican, it is jenny sanford, and that is who he is running against, his former wife. she is not helping him, believe me. >> max baucus leaving the senate, can he be scared? >> it republicans have a good shot of taking his seat. there for the cause of the republicans taking control in the senate in 2014 just went up. max baucus was one of the most beloved members of the
be losing a food hold in red statesman man. matt baucus, a member of six senate and two house terms decided a 44th year in washington was not in the cards. he won't seek re-election in 2014. he said we should not write him off yet. in the next year and a half i want to spend all of my hard work, shoe leather and luck working for the people of montana instead of on campaigning. he has earned the scorn of democrats when he voted against ex-banded background checks and the gun bill. he called the implementation of president obama's signature healthcare reform law a train wreck. before you scream who is this guy, remember he did help ride the affordable care act. leads hit to mike dennison. mike, thank you for joining us in "the war room"." >> glad to be here. >> michael: mike, tell us what is the buzz in montana about why matt baucus is actually stepping down? >> well, i think baucus, he's 71-year-old, and we're thinking a year or two ago why would this guy one to aren't again and put himself through the mill. highways been there for 40 years. why would he step down? baucus is a political anim
the establishment. but when max baucus a. prime mover on tax reform a. renegade on gun control, and one of the key senators protecting the democratic majority, said he is quitting next year, the ground shifted just a little built. why in this case, sue? >> a couple of reasons. one was a surprise. people weren't counting on max baucus to retire. the internal, hugely consequential figure in the senate for the better part -- been serving for three decades and for about the past 15 years, he's played an instrumental role in passing things from the bush tax cuts, medicare part d. most recently to obama's health care law. his fingerprints are all over that. and so from the policy, he's been very influential. and then from the politics, he comes from montana. a state that barama lost by double digits as one of seven states that has a democrat in the senate right now that they have to defend next year. and all of a sudden the radar start going up again as these are the kind of states and these are the kind of races that put the senate in play. >> the white house, problematic ally? >> well, this is max bau
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newspapers across montana ran this ad on sunday, targeting democrat mark baucus. it was wrong to vote no on stopping gun violence. stand with us, not with gun manufacturers. this is a progressive change campaign committee ad. and similar ads ran against the other red state, dems who also ran against background checks. the conventional wisdom has been that these red states voted against background checks for political reasons. background checks were going to fail, anyway. they didn't want the nra to come after them, so they voted no. they had to vote no because they're running for reelection. except today we found out max baucus is not running for reelection. after six terms he's quitting. he's been in the senate since i was five. the retirement of max baucus is not exactly being met with a wailing and gnashing of teeth. the huffington post made this their front page, essentially telling max baucus not to let the door hit him on his way outment cited with banks, back bush tax cuts, lobbyist complex, recommended girlfriend for federal job, delayed health care reform, ditched supporters.
votes cast on this one were from a democrat and a republican. senator max baucus in montana voted no, and everyone assumed he did so to protect himself in his reelection campaign next year, but he announced today he is want running for reelection. he knew that last week. senator baucus didn't wake up this morning and suddenly decide he wasn't running. that's not the way senators make the decision not to run, and that is not the way max baucus makes decisions. he is a careful, calculating and very, very slow decider. so when he cast that cowardly vote last week, he knew he wasn't running for reelection. and in the process, he betrayed the junior senator from montana, john tester, a democrat who cast the politically brave vote for a montana senator and voted yes. what john tester needed that day was political cover from max baucus, a little help. john tester needed to be able to say, when he went back to montana, hey, max voted for it, too. now, when senator tester goes back to montana, he's going to be challenged with, hey, baucus voted against it, why didn't you? the junior senator f
finance chairman max baucus working behind closed doors to reach a deal and he reportedly has an ally on the republican side, utah's orrin hatch. we're waiting to get senator orrin hatch hooked up. he will join us in just a minute. let me go back to jimmy williams and vin weber. vin, you were through the '86 tax battle. what's your take on this at a time when the president is really opposed to this? >> well, that's kind of the important point. >> he wants to raise taxes. >> the goal of the obama administration -- goal of this president, is to raise the revenue base of the government to solve the problem long-term through taxes. he might give a few good things to us on the right in order to get that, but that's his -- >> such as. >> maybe modest entitlement reform, not enough. the tax reform issue, the question is will he allow the top rate, marginal rates he has been crusading to raise ever since he first started running for president, will he allow them to come down in the context of a revenue-raising tax -- >> so far the answer is no. so far he wants -- >> but if he will, i think th
baucus chair of the powerful finance committee, surprised the political world today by saying he is not running for another term next year. the announcement comes only one week after baucus went against the party, against the overwhelming majority of democrats, his colleagues and voted against background checks. joining me now for our daily fix is chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of postpolitics.com. i want to talk to you about baucus, this update in from casey hunt on the hill for us, that senator shaheen's office now says that she will be attending. 19 of the 20 women senators are attending, waiting to hear from heidi heitkamp, perhaps has a slight problem in facing the president after voting against the background checks. in any case, senator baucus, this is is a resignation, which is being greeted by in some quarters, by more liberal or progressive democrats, with glee. because they didn't like his more conservative votes and his dragging feet, they felt, in fact on the writing of obama care. >> let's start with the gun vote, andrea, that you mentioned. m
to holding on to baucus' seat. what do you think of this, howard dean? >> i predicted this a weeking on a "morning joe." here is the problem. baucus, i think is described as a centrist democrat which means he voted with the republicans on the important issues that we care about. and ed schweitzer is this populous guy and even though he is not that liberal he is a populace. each in montana the vote matters a lot. the last poll a couple of days showed bryan schweitzer with a 19-.lead in a primary over max baucus. a hill too high to climb. no amount of money is going to fix that kind of problem especially with a guy who has 100% rain recognition which is the former governor, brian schweitzer. >> move on to the general election. a problem that democrats face in states like montana. >> not like montana, joe. this one -- you know, brian schweitzer is 100% name recognition, left office with great numbers. i still think this is a democratic seat. i do worry about some of the other ones. michigan will be tough but i think this one is in pretty good shape, assuming he runs. >> my bigger point
is a max baucus, the finance chairman committee supposed to be taking care of tax reform and the biggest issue on the trouble and poor max baucus is saying, don't push this gun control debate at me. >> stuart: where does the president stand? does he win or lose out of the gun control, i'm going to call it a mess. >> he believes he can win and tag the republicans as the opponents of gun control and then he's going to try to convince the country to push them out of office in 2014. that's the theory. >> stuart: last word, kim, dots the president win or lose on the gun control issue. >> this is the problem that he wanted the headlines to be republicans are the problem and in fact, it's his own party that's standing in the way. >> stuart: all right. when we come back, a visit to cuba by superstar couple beyonce and jay-z sparks outrage. well, other american celebrities have done it so what's the big deal? ommy's hee [ male announcer ] with everything. but instead she gives him capri sun super-v. with one combined serving of fruits and vegetables. capri sun super-v. humans. even when we cross
. tom, thanks. >>> another veteran of the senate is leaving. six-term montana democrat max baucus retiring at the end of his term. baucus is 71. he was among the handful of democrats who just voted against those expanded background checks for gun purchases. he runs the finance committee, had a huge influence on taxation, health care reform. this makes now six incumbent democratic senators not running for re-election. tonight at the white house, the president will host the women of the u.s. senate. all 20 female members of the senate have been invited to a private dinner. by political party the breakdown is 16 democrats, 4 republicans, and it's the latest in the president's dinner campaign with various lawmakers in d.c. >>> we have an update tonight on the midwest flooding that's been hammering several states during the past week. the illinois river among the hardest hit right now expected to crest overnight tonight. it's already left parts of peoria completely cut off from the rest of the city. the army corps is keeping a close eye on the main levee there which, as of tonight, is
max baucus who kind of turned his face -- his back on his own party. >> max baucus, what i think what people love about "house of cards," our staff is obsessed with it, by the way is the minute depiction of power. max baucus is just making a calculation he's up for re-election, he's in a red state. >> sure. that goes into play. you had a lot of -- you also had mccai mccain and toomey listening to the american public. 9 out of 10 people want this to happen. >> you sound so idealistic now. you've written such a cynical piece of work. the point is -- i've seen this in your work and the point is the way democracy actually works on capitol hill is not some sort of simple cause and effect mechanism between the will of the people and the things legislators do. >> certainly not. our show takes a dark look at politics, showing an extreme view how politics can work at its best and worst. >> vince underwood is not bound by ideologically and able to achieve progress because of that. >> what's interesting to me when i moved to washington and started covering capitol hill how surprising to me how c
, mary lan droou undecided. max baucus undecided. heidi heitkamp undecided. deanç helder of nevada, jeff flake and retiring georgia senator saxby chambliss. i want to focus on the democrats here, kelly, because this is something that president obama has made a big priority. mary landrieu, heidi heitkamp, up for re-election in 2014. >> not heidi heitkamp. >> yes, baucus and landrieu. >> for baucus, his fellow state senator was just re-elected, a democrat as well. but montana is gun country there are many people strong advocates for the strongest gun protections for gun owners there. so he is one to watch. max baucus. will he be a no, will he be a yes? he surprised us a bit by voting yes to begin the debate. that's a very different calculus than voting on the measure itself. heidi heitkamp is from north dakota, similar circumstances there. and when you've got mary landrieu, louisiana, her fellow representative of louisiana, david vitter, a republican, so sometimes it's what happens with how voters in a state will judge the two senators who represent them. when they're both from the same pa
and folks like max baucus who turned his back on his own party. >> so max baucus, what people love about house of cards, our staff is obsessed, by the way, is the minute granulation of the mechanics of power and the calculations. max baucus is making a calculation, he's up for re-election, he's in a red state. >> sure that goes in to play. but you had a lot of -- you also had mccain, collins and toomey. and we're listening to the american public. nine out of ten people want this to happen. so they voted against -- >> you sound so idealistic now but you have written such a cynical piece of work. the point is, and from -- i've seen this in your work both in the ieds of march. it is not the way that democracy actually works on capitol hill is not some sort of simple cause and effect mechanism between the will of the people, and the things legislators do. >> absolutely not. our show takes a dark look at politics. we are showing an extreme view of how politics can work at its best and worst. underwood is not bound by ideology. in a way he's able to achieve progress because of that. >> what is
and we see more delays. >>> senator max baucus, the latest member to say he is not running for election. we'll talk with nbc senior political editor mark murray. first, a lot going on today. here are some things we thought you should know. charlie rangel of new york is suing house speaker john boehner and six other lawmaker to have his 2012 censure on ethics charges overturned. he argues that members of the house ethics committee withheld evidence that could have cleared his name before the entire house voted to censure him. it covered a wide range of activities including failing to pay taxes on rental income for 17 years. >>> anthony weiner back on twitter. he was caught sending a young woman accepting suggestive pictures on twitter. he is now considering, reportedly considering running in the race for mayor in new york city. those are things we thought you should know. when our little girl was born, we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where s
of the architects of the plan, democratic senator max baucus, now says that he see as huge train wreck coming in this thing. bill: also after boss 10 the feds deciding the suspect in custody will be tried as a civilian. is that the right move? we'll talk to rudy giuliani, who helped guide new york and the country for that matter after the attacks. >> i hate to call the event whatever it was a terrible tragedy. i don't know how you measure, whether it was official terrorism or unofficial, whatever, clearly anyone to act in such a manner is clearly an evil person. you hurt my feelings, todd. i did? when visa signature asked everybody what upgraded experiences really mattered... you suggested luxury car service instd of "strength training with patrick willis." come on todd! flap them chicken wings. [ grunts ] well, i travel a lot and umm... [ male announcer ] at visa signature, every upgradedxperience comes from listening to our cardholders. visa signature. your idea of what a card should be. martha: there are new claims today that syria is using chemical weapons against its own people. a top is
. max baucus when he said why he didn't vote for it, one word, montana. the nra and the crazy support of max baucus. i'm not going to say it's crazy to support max baucus because they got what they wanted but they're so supportive with money you understand why the senators vote in that way. you have to change the structure of the filibuster. noah is right with four democratic senators they only would have gotten to 59 but they shouldn't have to get past 59. they shouldn't have to get past 50 on this. that's why the rules have to change. >> cenk: i want to leave here with one amazing fact. do you know because of the filibuster and the small states with two senators and the large states also only having two senators. they only need--the senators representing less than 12% of the population in this country to block any bill. 12% of the population can block any legislation the way the senate is structured now. that's crazy. there is something fundamentally wrong with that. we're going to take a break and come back and talk about immigration. and what is wrong with that. marco rubio looked
. yes it is. having 20 slaughtered children is not enough? come on. senator max baucus gave a little more contrite. he gave an one word response against the gun bill, montana. he does have a point. how many guns there are per each state. in the home state of montana with 120 gun businesses for every 100,000 people. next the senator who voted against it with 104 per 100,000. and right behind him heidi hide camp and mark pryor. the senator from louisiana voted for it. and she's up for re-election. there are heroes on the right republicans senator susan collins mark kirk, putt toomey and john mccain all voted for it. afterwards mccain showed no sympathy for his colleagues who had been cowed by the nr. >> i can't blame any interest group for votes. people who are responsible. drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but y
, montana's max baucus, is the eighth senator to say he won't seek reelection next year. we look at why democrats are worried. >> woodruff: fred de sam lazaro reports on gender bias in india, where many parents still opt for baby boys over girls. >> the gap began to wideen in the '90s with new ultrasound machines that made it easy to learn a fetus's sex. this scans have led to the termination of millions of female pregnancies. >> ifill: and margaret warner talks with the author of a new book about shadow warfare waged by the c.i.a. and special forces. >> a week after 9/11 president bush gave the c.i.a. lethal authority to capture and kill al qaeda members so they become much more into the killing business and the military. >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. >> and with the ongoing support of these insti
" is next. >> john: max baucus is leaving the senate. this means that for the first time in years, there's a slight chance that his senate seat could finally go to a democrat. now that the boston bombing suspect has been caught, republican lawmakers have declared it safe to hate muslims again. the sequester has kicked in and flights are being delayed and what's really awful is this is making some lawmakers late for congressional sessions who voted to cutting more government programs. today is the birthday of william shakespeare, michael moore and lee majors, the $6 million man although due to sequester cuts, he's now the $3.5 million man. shakespeare said, lord what tools these mortals be. eliot spitzer is here. i'm john fuglesang. this is "viewpoint." >> john: good evening, i'm john fuglesang. this is "viewpoint." less than a week after the manchin toomey gun control bill was defeated in the senate, one of the democrats who helped shoot is down is stepping down. democratic strategist say max baucus who chairs the powerful finance committee has decided to retire rather than run for re-el
. senator baucus will not stand for relix devoting the next 18 months in the senate, a powerful guy, chairman of the senate finance committee, pushing for tax reform, lower rates, fewer deductions. that's terrific. a shot of tax reform. your comment on that? >> well, i hope that's true. i wish him a happy and enjoyable life, created the affordable care act, but i hope he works hard on tax reform. if we get rid of the special interest deductions, those buried in the tax code, we'll have higher economic growth, more job, and a tax code that is simper and fairer for everyone in america. >> you are critical of senator baucus even though he said the other week the implementation of obamacare was a train wreck, his words. you're critical of the senator. >> well, senator baucus is the one who is largely responsible for the american people suffering under the affordable care agent right now. i mean, we're months from implementation. it really is a 0 # -- 2014-15 program, and the outrageousness of senator baucus sitting in fro of the former governor saying, hey, i just noticed the affordable
is wyoming senator mike in c. his comments are next followed by finance committee chairman senator max baucus of montana said the bill should first go through his committee. >> i want to thank the senator from illinois, senator ben for his interest in his and his participation in this, his ability to explain it and the way that he is brought a lot of people along on helping out with this bill. he has been a great replacement and we made more progress than we ever had any of the 14 years of working on the bill are i thank him for that and his ability to explain things so clearly. i also want to thank senator lamar alexander, who helped us to change this bill in the last year from about an 80 page bill to an 11 page bill and made it states right. as senator durbin so eloquently explained, is state action by the state, this is just to clear up the quill case that made a little bit confusing about whether they could charge tax or not, and then challenge congress to fix the problem. the solution is that senator alexander came up with condensed the bill down considerably and i think made it a lot e
your reaction to it. max baucus, the finance committee chairman in the senate, the guy who sort of shepherded obamacare through the senate, announced he's going to retire at the end of his term in early 2015. he's a democrat in a conservative state. what does that do, first of all, for the republicans' prospects of retaking the senate? >> well, jon, it looks really good for the republicans to have a guy like max baucus with his campaign firepower retire until you realize that governor brian schweitzer may now run in his place. and i think montana tans like governor schweitzer a whole lot more than they like max baucus. so the republicans, ironically, might have been better off with baucus on the ballot even though he's a dogged campaigner and a smart political operator. i think this is big news on capitol hill where max but a us is always at the center of the big legislative developments. he's working on a tax reform bill. not that i think it's going to come to fruition, but he has that kind of access and power. and so i think, you know, for republicans you in theory always like
. melissa: mark otto, thanks very much. >> my pleasure, thanks. melissa: democrat max baucus shifting his own ton obamacare. he now calls it a train wreck. lou dobbs weighs in on that one next. lori: look at winners and losers in the trading session, a couple hours before the closing bell. we're back after this. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. melissa: a democratic senator who helped craft president obama's health care law now calls it a train wreck. max baucus made the comment yesterday as health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius testified at routine budget hearing. >> small businesses have no idea what to do, what to expect. do you have any data. you're not giving data. you're giving concept frankly. i just see a huge train wreck coming down. melissa: time now for lou dobbs. so this one of those things where you accidentally blurt out the truth or was this contrived? senator bach sus -- >> senator
you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> senator max baucus of montana is the latest democrat to announce he's not running for reelection. baucus made the announcements this morning. now the democrats will have an uphill battle certainly to keep the red state seat. baucus is the eighth senator and sixth democrat to call it quits this cycle. following iowa's tom harkin, tim johnson of south dakota, jay rockefeller of west virginia. michigan's carl levin. new jersey's frank lautenberg. saxby chambliss of georgia. mike johans of any nebraska. they're all quitting. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. yes, you could. but i wondered what a customer thought? describe the first time you
about security at big events and gatherings. >> ifill: then, a powerful democratmontana's max baucus, is the eighth senator to say he won't seek reelection next year. we look at why democrats are worried. >> woodruff: fred de sam lazaro reports on gender bias in india, where many parents still opt for baby boys over girls. >> the gap began to wideen in the '90s with new ultrasound machines that made it easy to learn a fetus's sex. this scans have led to the termination of millions of female pregnancies. >> ifill: and margaret warner talks with the author of a new book about shadow wfa waged bythe c.i.a. and speal forces. >> a week after 9/11 president bush gave the c.i.a. lethal authority to capture and kill al qaeda members so they become much more into the killing business and the military. >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live
deliciously real. >>> senator max baucus of montana is the latest democrat to announce he's not running for re-election. baucus made the announcements this morning. now the democrats will have an uphill battle certainly to keep the red state seat. baucus is the eighth senator and sixth democrat to call it quits this cycle. following iowa's tom harkin, tim johnson of south dakota, jay rockefeller of west virginia. michigan's carl levin. new jersey's frank lautenberg. saxby chambliss of georgia. mike johanns of nebraska. they're all quitting. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." mark sanford's political comeback trail may be coming to an end. with a special election for the first congressional district two weeks away now a new poll shows sanford trailing his opponent democrat elizabeth busch by nine. 50% for cobert busch 41% for sanford after national republicans announced they would no longer fund his campaign because he violated his divorce agreement entering his ex-wife's home without her permission. sanford took an unusual approach pleading with voters in his full page ad in
ringing ] [ static warbles ] [ beeping ] red or blue? ♪ >>> senator max baucus of montana is the latest democrat to announce he's not running for re-election. baucus made the announcements this morning. now the democrats will have an uphill battle certainly to keep the red state seat. baucus is the eighth senator and sixth democrat to call it quits this cycle. following iowa's tom harkin, tim johnson of south dakota, jay rockefeller of west virginia. michigan's carl levin. new jersey's frank lautenberg. saxby chambliss of georgia. mike johanns of nebraska. they're all quitting. we'll be right back. she's always been able to brighten your day. it's just her way. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is he
they need to win the majority in 2014. max baucus announced unexpectedly he's retiring, giving republicans a prime pick-up opportunity in a state where obama won just 42% of the vote in 2012 and if republicans are going to put the senate in play in 2014, their path goes through the midwest and mountain west region where -- make republican shots on payer of a hat trick look pretty good. but republicans have to win a minimum of two of those three seats to be in the game for the majority and no republican chances look good in south dakota, where mike brouns is already in the race. there are problems in montana and iowa. they're dipping into the second tier of candidates. baucus has never been popular in washington. at best, democrats treated him with respect because they feared him and his power in the finance committee, but the guy was disciplined, raised a will the of money and in an odd way, parts of the democratic party are somehow ecstatic today that he's retiring. democrats right now appear more prepared to land a good candidate in former governor brian schweitzer than republicans do, a
baucus retiring another obama frenemy is biting the dust. i want to bring in our panel. gang, it is great to have you all here today. hogan, i want to start with you. we said frenemies. others can look at it as a bromance. some say several major areas of overlap have emerged. they say there isn't a bromance but there's a functional relationship that gets both men closer to their policy goals. come on. a bromance could come out of that. they see a way to move forward through each other's politics that could cement their legacy, don't you agree? >> they could. this is the kind of time where i'm excited. i'm glad they are trying to come together to get something accomplished. where has this been? the president came into office. mccain was there for a long time. this is typical of politicians looking back in way twilight of their career. i know it was a chilly election and they didn't have the best relationship coming out of that but still this is what we elect them to do. we elect them to come to the table with ideas that may be different and may be the same but define common ground and get
montana on sunday. this sunday. featuring local gun owners angry about senator max baucus' vote. joining me right now, david axelrod, former obama senior adviser. msnb political analyst and republican strategist john feehery. somehow i have a different attitude towards the republicans and the democrats who voted on this thing. i don't know why it is because i'm not always partisan. but i really do have a problem with mitch mcconnell. i would like to see him get stung hard on this one. why do i think like that? because he tends to be an s.o.b. generally? does anybody like that guy? >> you don't like mr. mcconnell but i like him. >> you like mr. mcconnell. >> i don't think this is going to hurt him. >> you're in the minority. >> nobody likes him. >> he's the least popular incumbent running for re-election right now. >> yeah. >> i will say this, chris. his concern right now is not about a general election. it's about a primary. until the primary -- we'll see what happens after. but until primary filing is done, he's looking over his right shoulder. and he doesn't really care about these ads
, itself, senator max baucus ready to retire. >> what did baucus say? did he use the word train wreck? >> yes, i think he did. one of the administrators said what he's hoping for is the american people to avoid a quote third world experience. these are all from the bill's supporters. i mean, the critics can sit back and let the other side tear them apart. >> my friend igor, if the author calls it a train wreck, the others calling it a third world experience, you got a problem, buddy. >> i think the quote was if you don't defend the lines on the road to a train wreck, it's not a train wreck yet. it's a difference between attacking the provision, which baucus isn't dog an sitting back like a lot of democrats not defend the fact that millions have coverage and seniors have access to preventive care. there are stories that need to be told. as you move into 2014, you need to learn about heidi highcamp, the senator from north dakota, who explained the law to people and won because of it. >> jason, i asked you, by the way, did i get this wrong? i thought premiums were supposed to fall. are t
intact. the call.k you for the front page this morning of "the washington post," baucus looking for bipartisan tax reform. laurie montgomery points out -- host: again, the story this morning looking at tax legislation that will be coming up in the months ahead. james is joining us from carmel, indiana. republican line, good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. host: certainly. caller: we had a shooting in our neighborhood a few weeks ago, a young man jealous of his girlfriend's new boyfriend. police on the shooting and three times. the cost of it, there were like a dozen squad cars here, we had to pay to put this boy in the hospital for how many months, we are prosecuting him and putting him in jail, the cost of an illegal gun to taxpayers is tremendous and i have never heard anyone talk but that. your opinion? someones opinion on what it costs taxpayers to have illegal guns on the street? host: what is your opinion? what do you think? caller coat it -- i think -- caller: i think it costs a fortune. they should have insurance on guns, like cars. they say that people ki
. senator hatch. >> thank you, mr. chairman but i want to thank chairman baucus for convening this hearing to consider the nomination of marilyn tavenner to serve as administrator for the centers for medicare and medicaid services, cms. this is a critical agency for a number of reasons has been without a confirmed administrator since the fall of 2006. cms is the world's largest health insurer. and has a budget of nearly $1 trillion processes over 1.2 billion claims a year or services provided to some of our nation's most vulnerable citizens receiving medicare and medicaid. if confirmed, ms. tavenner, you'll have a daunting challenge ahead of you. while i believe you have the qualifications to do the job, there is still much that you will need to do in order to assure members of this committee that cms is heading in the right direction and that your leadership will help steer the agency through the very turbulent times that lie ahead. one of the greatest challenges facing cms in the near future is implementation of the federal and state-based health insurance exchanges. in a speech last jun
on its provisions, even how doctors are going to get paid. >> look at senator max baucus, one of the authors of this, looks at sebelius and says this is a train wreck. >> neil: but i admired him early on. wasn't he the guy who said, charles payne, we have people to read this? >> exactly. >> neil: when you start saying, i had people to read this -- >> hhs has missed dozens of deadlines -- >> there is a lot we don't know. but what we do know, draconian interpretation is full time work. this is going to destroy people. their hours are going to go from 40 to less than 30. we know a -- >> neil: a lot of this is already happening. >> a lot of states aren't prepared. the $40 an hour to tell you there is a platinum gold, bronze, that's a farce. >> deadline is october 1 for these state exchanges. good luck meeting that, too. >> neil: in a way, what's going to happen, we will get a singer payer system. >> absolute israeli -- absolutely. i really do believe that the idea was eventually to get to that and this is a way to make sure of that. >> yeah. and what was scary about the debate aro
on revision even how doctors are going to get paid. >> look at senator max baucus, and kathleen sebelius says this is train wreck. >> neil: i admired him early on. do we have people to read this? >> when you start saying i had people to read this. >> hhs has missed dozens. >> there is lot what we don't know. what we do know draconian interpretations of what full time work, a lot of people are going to take 25% hair cut. we do know a lot of states -- we know it's going to happen in droves. a lot of changes so you won't have a choice. the interpreter there is platinum, silver and gold program, that is a farce. >> ends october 1st for the state exchanges and good luck meeting that. >> we will get a single payer system. i think the market only, sounds like a helicopter pilot but i really do believe the idea was eventually to get to that and this is the way to make sure of that. >> what was scary about the debate around healthcare i believe -- >>> in the area down in philadelphia. been able to tell you. the thing is a mess. they don't know how it will rolled out. particularly inster cities. that i
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